Collective bargaining with CUPE 1393 was not limited to unilateral demands by the university. The negotiation process has been respectful and the negotiating teams have accomplished a lot, many of them not in the public discourse. We have never asked for a wage reduction for CUPE 1393 jobs. We have assured CUPE 1393 that we will maintain the current language that protects members from losing their jobs due to outsourcing. The second big problem is the shock. The CUPE 1393 collective agreement essentially allows unlimited possibilities for dumping. Their members have tried to preserve the long-standing right in their collective agreements to clash indefinitely if their position is closed as a result of budget cuts, restructuring or other reasons other than outsourcing. .